As the 2015 deadline approaches for achieving the Millennium Development Goals, questions are growing louder about how far we have gone, and what we do next. Discussions on the Post-2015 agenda have begun in light of and as a follow up to the UN Secretary General’s report to the 2010 MDG Summit. ...Click here to read more

As the 2015 deadline approaches for achieving the Millennium Development Goals, questions are growing louder about how far we have gone, and what we do next. Discussions on the Post-2015 agenda have begun in light of and as a follow up to the UN Secretary General’s report to the 2010 MDG Summit. The "post-2015" development agenda has already attracted debates across the world and an avalanche of reports, donors and development experts are starting to haggle over the future of aid and development.

Although the MDGs have helped to define a common framework of priorities, there is no denying that a re-think is needed. As part of the efforts to build the Post-2015 Development Agenda, it is crucial that stakeholders in Tanzania start a dialogue to define a vision of the future world “we want” to live in.

The Economic and Social Research Foundation (ESRF) has been asked by the President’s Office - Planning Commission (PO-PC) to facilitate inclusive consultation processes to stimulate the debate on the future global development agenda, and to produce a concrete report on the desired Post-2015 development goals.

A diverse set of tools have been deployed to capture a wider range of stakeholders’ views in Tanzania. Thus, ESRF through TAKNET (one of the data/views capturing tools deployed) is facilitating the online discussion with the following objectives:

(a) To ensure that all stakeholders at different levels are fully involved in providing critical inputs to Tanzania’s development agenda and build a shared global vision on the Future We Want
(b) To identify and analyze issues pertinent to the Post MDG Development Agenda
(c) To propose relevant areas to be addressed by the development agenda after 2015
(d) To get a consensus on what Post MDG Development Agenda should cover

This discussion will therefore be guided by among others the following questions:

(a) Who is a person not living well in this country/community?
(b) What do you think has made your life better or worse recently and what could be done about this situation (including your own role)
(c) What will be needed for future generations to live well in this country or community?

We welcome all to participate to this important discussion forum for the better future of our country.

We thank you all for your contributions on Post MDGs development agenda. We have closed the discussion, the Policy brief emanating from this discussion will be shared to you via this website later today.

Meanwhile The UN and partners (the UN Millennium Campaign in partnership with civil society organisations), have teamed up to put in place an innovative global survey, known as MY World, so people can participate in the post-2015 process by telling the changes that would make the most difference to their lives. It is hoped that through this tool, more people can be engaged in the post 2015 conversation.

We request all of you to be part of the process by completing the survey at www.myworld2015.org . The survey takes two minutes to complete. Participate and see how technology is simplifying the way of doing things.

The survey is also accessible through; Tanzania Online, ESRF website, as well as the National 2015 Consultative Process website.

Once again thank you for your time and constructive ideas

Hassan

We will be closing this discussion on Friday, 25th January 2015. We thank you vey much fo your useful contribitions.

We have stated synthesising the discussions into a policy brief and the following have been captured as necessary for national development:

• Ownership of the development agenda by Tanzanians

• Improvement of social service delivery;Education, health etc

• Human capital development, (build a learning society)

• Fostering science, technology and innovation

• Improving the state of infrastructure; water, energy for industrial development etc

• Managing the natural resource base in a sustainable manner that will bring prosperity to the people; and

• Transforming the agriculture sector with a view of reducing poverty and ensuring food security.

A.K. Hassan

Thanks for your patriotism

Mkombole,

ARUSHA CITY Ag. DIRECTOR

Anthony Gikuri

Kizumbi Campus

Moshi University College of Cooperative and Business Studies

P.O.BOX 469

SHINYANGA

Tanzania

Mobile +255713634382/+25589448244/+255768805441

Website: www.muccobs.ac.tz

This can also explain why all Europe except parts of UK do not use english as a medium of instruction. It also explains why at its independence in 1945, Korea banned the use of Japanese as a medium of instruction and became a super power few years later. It explains why China is now a super power

It is a 100 times better we remain poor than import languages and neo-colonialism

Our zeal is to have all Tanzanian boys and girls access quality education equitably

With best regards from

Benjamin NM Nkonya

TAMONGSCO Secretary General

Member to the American Education Research Association (AERA)

www.tamongsco.org

+255-715-316570

+255-754-316570

+255-779-316570

+255-784-316570

Fax: +255-222-180250

Office:

TAMONGSCO: Tanzania Association of Managers and Owners of Non-Government Schools and Colleges

Alpha High school located at Mikocheni "B" near ITV and the Institute of Tax Administration, Dar Es Salaam

P.O.Box 9803, Dar es salaam, Tanzania, East Africa

This can also explain why all Europe except parts of UK do not use english as a medium of instruction. It also explains why at its independence in 1945, Korea banned the use of Japanese as a medium of instruction and became a super power few years later. It explains why China is now a super power

It is a 100 times better we remain poor than import languages and neo-colonialism

Our zeal is to have all Tanzanian boys and girls access quality education equitably

With best regards from

Benjamin NM Nkonya

TAMONGSCO Secretary General

Member to the American Education Research Association (AERA)

www.tamongsco.org

+255-715-316570

+255-754-316570

+255-779-316570

+255-784-316570

Fax: +255-222-180250

Office:

TAMONGSCO: Tanzania Association of Managers and Owners of Non-Government Schools and Colleges

Alpha High school located at Mikocheni "B" near ITV and the Institute of Tax Administration, Dar Es Salaam

P.O.Box 9803, Dar es salaam, Tanzania, East Africa

If your goal is taking university students for fieldwork contact University of Dar es salaam and see if such opportunities are available and what is the process or rather procedure involved.

Just recently there was an announcement from Chief Permanent Secretary Mr. Ombeni Sefue urging Tanzanians in the diaspora to send out their resumes/CVs directly to his email address. This is an effort to establish the kind of experience and talent we have in the diaspora and getting them contracts to work locally on some specific projects that require their expertise.

Not sure if you came across this announcement and if you did...did you submit your resume/CV?That's what being proactive is all about!

It begins with you,take some form of action and others will follow. If we wait for the government ministry or some university to reach to us,it would probably never happen.

Thanks,

-Nkunga

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

I am very grateful to all contributors who have spared their time to comment on this topic. I would like to go straight to my point. In my opinion Education is the CLIMBING LADDER to the development of any country. To be sincere, the education system that we are building on does not prepare Tanzanians to becoming experts and professionals of their own. What do you expect; a child trained through Kiswahili for seven or eight years is subjected abruptly to new learning environment, 'English Language at secondary school'.

In other words all the seven years are wasted. Worse enough, the most valuable stage in learning goes underutilized. The child goes back to the first stage a,e,i,o,u. What a mess!!!. I wish we were either cold or hot rather than being lukewarm. Today we witness mushrooming of the so-called English medium schools. What can we expect of them, nothing but a mere language? Why do thousand secondary schools graduates go home empty handed? Why do our university graduates fail to express themselves? Why can’t University lectures explain better what they know or lecture? Language, a barrier to learning!!!! We better declare Kiswahili as an official and academic language and cast aside our hypocrisies. We are going nowhere if our education system is still offered through a mixture of Kiswahili and English.

We better opt for ONE and direct our efforts towards that. Do away with other learning facilities such as classrooms, furniture and the like. If I were appointed the Minister for Education today, the first mistake to commit to the public would be declaring English a medium of learning from Primary to University. We don’t need to bother about Kiswahili because this is the mother tongue to more than 75% of most urban born children. They know it already. How can we prepare them to work in a multilingual society? Are we trying to restrict them in an electrical fence? We need to work up and stop politics when thinking of the future of our country.

Anthony Gikuri

Lecturer, MUCCoBS

Kizumbi Campus Shinyanga

Truth will always remain the truth. Since 1961 to date many friendly countries most of which Hon Dr.Khamis cited have provided generous support to the development of Tanzania of which we should sincerely thank them. May God bless them all.

Field experience has shown that many Tanzanian think that the foundation of our development depends mainly on donor assistance. For example we are still sorting for donor assistance to furnish many of our primary schools with desks, toilets and cooking stoves - activities that our within our capacity.

In many cases we have failed to maintain expensive projects funded by donors. Even filling pot holes in our tarmac roads we are in many cases seeking for additional donor support which is lack of responsibility and not poverty.

Many policy makers promise communities that they are looking for donor assistance to finance their development projects even small projects at village level for example construction of improved firewood stoves and tree planting at farmland.

Tanzanian we have to avoid dependency of donor aids as a pre-requisite for our development. Progressively we should reduce foreign aid contribution in our development budget from 40% to10% in the next 5 to ten years. Our development strategy should be on self-reliance and not begging for financial assistance as we are blessed with enough natural resources for our sustainable development if wisely and effectively utilised.. Let us change our mind set from begging to self-reliance as begging is not sustainable.

Sincerely

Bariki Kaale

We can have a separate discussion on aid whether it is good or bad. We might have different opinions on that, but I have seen a lot of researches on aid taking some examples for Tanzania, Uganda, Zimbabwe Zambia and other countries

At the moment, let our discussions be on MDGs, taking the local context and encouraging our government to be accountable to citizens, and then we can find support to complement.

May be we do not need that level of support (money) we need something else.

Audax

Contributions and discussions have been very educative.

To achieve sustainable development we need integrated planning as all the mentioned activities are important.

For example development of transport infrastructure for the City of Dar es salaam is crucial. To protect the infrustructure, effective conservation of the environment upstream is also crucial. Currently billions of shillings are used for building good roads in DSM. However deforestation and environmental degradation in Coast and DSM regions (upstream) are ongoing at an alarming rate with little financial support as planners have failed to link good roads and need for their environmental protection.

As a result of upstream deforestation -showers (small amount of rain) in Coast and DSM regions are frequently causing floods that are detrimental to our roads and other development infrastructure. Planners therefore need to integrate development of roads and environmental conservation.

Another example is that we can not achieve good education if people are sick and with little food. In this case, Education, Health and Agricuture are interlinked.

Giving priority to few sectors is one of the underlying causes that contributed to non-achievement of the MDGs hence the need for integrated development planning.

Sincerely

Bariki K. Kaale

1. Education; is really education used as a development tool lets look on the engineering side for example, each year there are couple of researches done by university students while some out of them if used shall definitely lead to reaching out the MDG's,

2.Individual initiatives: I wish there are polities to enable and facilitate initiatives.

3. Is the education given to students at a desired quality? " i'm not sure". does the education prepare them to stand and work on their own how about other related enablers "financing side, equipping them to deliver in terms of knowledge".

4. In developed countries for example students are attached to do research with specific company and one the research results are successful, they are implemented that's why we find many innovations technically.

5. How do we focus on corruption: this is big threat/problem towards success of any planned Project achievement.

6. Do we have Committed Tanzanians to deliver, why don't they deliver,

7. once a time there was Mkukuta and Mkurabita how successful they were, what need to be done then.

8. Kilimo Kwanza: what have we done to prepare Tanzanians: are they really there for this business do they have skills, what happened during that era when there was " Vyama vya Ushirika" I Believe they were successful only missed some gaps towards revenue to the farmers versus investment costs. do we need to have external settlers for Kilimo Kwanza Mission. there are lots of natural resources only needs an enabler to TZ citizens.

9.We have plenty of "Sekondary za kata" what is really being enabled to those scholars after school, not sure if they are enabled to go and do something out there just like Standard 7.

10. are the regulatory bodies doing to meet the demand and requirements; are the decision balanced and fair, or business as usual.

Thanks and I may wish to contribute.

Do not misunderstand me. While we would acknowledge whatever aid has done to our countries, but we should be able to look on 'what if...aid was not there'? And for sure, we might be better off than now. We could be more organized, citizens would be more enlightened, there will be strong watch dog bodies and bila shaka level of corruption would be minimal.

I think, sometimes we would like to maintain status quo, sometimes by gaining nothing. For me, I think if you ask the level of support our government has had over years from various. Have you ever asked yourselves what would happen in the absence of aid?

So, let us go back and find areas where we can look on our own context, and mobilize resources, manage them well and see if we cannot address hunger, malnutrition, maternal mortality rates and illiteracy.

Audax

It is a fact that foreign aid has helped the development of (Tanganyika) Tanzania since 9th December 1961.About 40% of our yearly budget comes from foreign donors, our HIV/AIDS project is financed by USIAD(America),some of our Primary Education is supported by Britain, several projects since 1961 to date have been financed by Scandinavian countries(Sweden,Norway,Denmark),our gas exploration is partly conducted by Norway. The TAZARA Railway is also a product of foreign aid(from China), the Tanga_Mombasa highway is an USA aid (President Bush).The Rapid Transport system in Dar es Salaam is also foreign aid.We Tanzanians should be able to say THANK YOU to our donors for supporting us so long. Tanzania is a poor country . It has a lot of corruption and we have to fight it and get rid of it so that we can better use the foreign aid. Dr.Khamis,Sweden

Nothing upsets me than when somebody simply says that ``aid has done nothing substantial to the development of this country``. What a grossly biased statement!!!

I have read a lot of criticisms about aid,but honestly,if we fail to acknowledge its role in reducing human sufferings,then we are betraying humanity. The role of aid in reducing infant mortality and maternal deaths as well as deaths caused by malaria and HIV/AIDS can not be disputed. You want facts? Audax has an NGO background. I did not expect such a statement from him.

We all wish that African governments were responsible but they are not. Let us maintain our efforts to hold governments accountable .Let us play our roles in enabling citizens to stand up for their rights. As a person who has been reading about aid and making a close follow up, i know their is corruption,mistakes rooted in approaches and questionable aid motives but none of this has led me to such a flawed conclusion.

Dastan Kweka

Foreign aid and foreigners will not help It is high time we Tanzanians mobilize ourselves And just copy and show example of TRL Let a commander like Mwakyembe do the job Then only we will realize.

I am sure people have been contributing a lot of brilliant ideas on MDGs. Having been working in agric sector in Tanzania, Mozambique and Kenya for sometimes, I think I got some ideas to contribute to this discussion. I have to be clear here, that the Future we WANT as Tanzania, should not be dictated by donors and foreigners. Aid has done nothing substantial to this country's development and we have all the reasons to mobilize whatever resources available to attain the MDGs more than many countries in Africa and the world at large.

I have some few points here based on MDG (1 &2) on poverty and hunger

Tanzania as a country should declare a moratorium on famine and hunger by all measures. This would mean, we mobilize all the necessary resources towards addressing food insecurity issues. This must be linked with rigorous analysis on regional potentials which has to be followed by resource mobilization (finance, capital and human) to maximize such potential within regions. We can also have some ideas on reducing idling of youths (particularly men) who find Kilimo not being lucrative investment and yet they do not find alternative they end up on streets

Stop Politics in Agric. After defining the key priorities, we have to deal with mind set among many Tanzanians and influence shift of mind about about agriculture. It is not for school failures, it is not just to feed our stomachs, it is not for retired people, it is not for jobless. It is a profession, it has to be respected and no commands on when, where and who to sell to when it comes to agric produce

Resource redistribution. We have so many resources, and it is obvious that treasury through TRA collects a lot of money. But where is it going? Issue of resource redistribution must consider equitability and respect for human dignity. The government has to mobilize most of its resources towards addressing poverty among the rural population. This could be in form of improved public services and access to opportunities for smallholders to excel in life through farming

Focus on women. This group being the major actor in agric they need space and to explore and exploit their capacities. If this is addressed, we will definitely resolve questions on school enrollment, malnutrition and under five death rates

Audax

We thank you very much for your contributions that will help to inform the preparation of the Post MDG agenda. Several issues have emerged from the discussions. From environmental, good governance, education, management of natural resources,human resources, health just to mention a few.

As we now come to the end of this discussion, can we now prioritize these emerging issues for the post MDG development agenda with measures/actions to be taken?

This will enable us to synthesise and come up with a document that clearly indicate the future we want.

I think we need to make a definition of a farmer and a peasant. Is it the head of family, family or production entity? Being an educated and experienced BWANA SHAMBA (1966-1994 son of a hand hoe peasant 1995-2001 working in villages and 2002 todate working in towns)

My definitions are:

1) A farmer is a family or legal entity which produces crops/livestock, processes for adding value and sells finished products. A farmer is "a person who owns or manages a farm" Examples of farmers who are production entities are Kilombero sugar company which produces sugar cane, adds value and sells sugar

2) A peasant (Manamba): "a poor smallholder or agricultural laborer of low social status" Peasant economy: "an agricultural economy in which the family is the basic unit of production" Concise Oxford Dictionary - 10th edition. All agricultural raw material sellers are peasants (manamba).

Case study: Cotton peasants who sell raw cotton (Tshs 600/=) which produces 4 shirts @ 15,000/= or Tshs 60,000/= per kg. This means thatretail price is 100 times the farm gate price. By economic terms, the peasant is excessively exploited by other participants in the cotton value chain (middlemen, ginners, transporters, exporters, processors out of Tanzania, importers, wholesalers and retailers). This explains why peasants are always poor despite heavy subsidies given by the government to inputs

Coming back to your issue of "skilled farmers"

a) We don't have farmers in the first place. We have manamba's who are remotely controlled by industry owners out of the country.

b) We have more skilled farmers than we need. More than 90% of SUA graduates are sons and daughters of manamba's and are prepared to be farmers in their parents land given opportunity.

The following question come immediately:

A) Why are the sons/daughters of manamba's not investing in agriculture? The initial capital too high to be born by a manamba's son/daughter and that explains why they migrate to urban areas in search of green pasture. e.g Sugarcane estate with a sugar factory requires about Tshs 100billion. If a SUA graduate son at Ikwiriri (Rufiji river basin) is given a loan through by the government through TIB with not more than 7% interest refundable in a maximum 20 years, we should expect this person to become a farmer. Below are some benefits of doing this

1) S/he will employ not less than 1,000 people,

2) boost the sugar production to fill the sugar import gap of 160,000tons which is prevailing now

3) Reverse the forex flow that was used to import sugar

4) Boost the tax base (PAYE, corporation tax etc.)

5) Reverse rural-urban migration.

It is a misconception to think educated people hate living in villages. I personally have many friends who are working in villages where good income is assured. e.g We find MANY graduates from SUA at Herikulu & Mponde tea estate and factory in Lushoto, wattle company in Iringa. All are located in remote villages and graduates a re comfortably living there with no plan of shifting to towns

B: The government cries of budgetary constraints; where will that money come from? Refrain from using Tshs 150b for the national input voucher system (NAIVS) in favor of loans. NAIVS is faced with a host of challenges including manamba poverty (They can't pay the 50% contribution of Tshs 70,000/=), vagaries of rainfall, difficulty in monitoring, farmers technical know how on how to use the inputs etc.

Our zeal is to have all Tanzanian boys and girls access quality education equitably

The government must have short development plan(5 years) and a long development plan(10 years to 20 years). We cant afford our youths to have only standard seven education due to the fact that their parents cant have the means of paying school fees. Therefore the government have to offer all youths free education up to Form IV and make a stress in science subject(Physics,Chemistry, Biology) and Mathematics.

If we know that 70% of the 45mill.Tanzanians are farmers why can't we develop modern farming methods intead of depending on "Jembe, Sururu,Shoka na Shepe".Our farmers should not depend on rain to plant their seeds. They must use irrigation farming methods sice we have plenty of water in our rivers and lakes(Victoria,Tanganyika,Nyasa, river Ruvu etc).

As to Uranium we have experience in that since I have myself been in uranium mines in France have been handling uraninite.We can mine uranium in Tanzania and there are problems in doing that.Dr.Khamis,Sweden

Future determination of every individual, family, village, wards, districts and the nation is very important if we want to see what will happen tomorrow today.

If someone is asked what future he/she wants, definitely will talk allot what she/he wants in the future to be; either good life; what type of life is a question of every one.

Myself i suggest the future i need for the nation of Tanzania is a future of no dependency from foreign countries especially developed countries. This will enable the Tanzania as the country to be independent in decision making without interference with powerful nation economically, socially and politically. Dependency of the budget of the Country brought other influence and interest of sponsors in our country, because almost 40 percent of our country budget is donated by developed countries, therefore and the areas they need their fund to be spent is allocated and is necessary to follow all the conditions they are giving. Always funds only on normal expenditure budget and not development budget. This situation led the development project fund to be not sufficient to alleviate the poverty that dominated in the country.

This could be done by budgeting own resources which we have and we must give priority on development sectors to make the economy grow for an individual because the employment created and investment return and the country in general.

Also to make our economic resources are utilized by the majority and not minority. If the resources is well distributed, there will be fast economic growth that will eliminate all forms of dependency of an individual and the nation in general.

Avoid corruption of all forms

Thanks

Donald Kibhuti

Mungu ibariki Tanzania!

This is with kind regards!

Cathy

Don't say it is a remote area without infrastructure. The infrastructure will be put in place the technocrats. Because if you fear of the absence of the infrastructure, then nothing will be done forever. Let me give one good example of how Mwalimu Nyerere planned his legacy. Let me take take you to Mgololo, Mufindi, Iringa where Mwalimu developed the so called Mufindi Paper Mill, the largest by then in Southern Africa at a very remote unkown rural place called Mgololo. Prior to 1981, the design was done by Swedish companies, construction by British as well as Thailand, Yugoslavians, etc, management by Canadians and Indians and later handled back to Tanzanians.

During the construction, Nyerere send many Tanzanian children abroad for education in various fields, long as well as short courses. It was anywhere in the world regardless of of the costs. When Tanzanians took over, the company was performing quite well just to be let down by politics. The design required that the mill use coal from Maamba, Zambia or Wankie, Zimbabwe. There were times coal came from as far as South Africa. Salt for electrolysis came from as far as Geramny and Britain and kaolin came from Colombia. President Mwinyi challenged us to use locally available resources which meant to do a lot of adjustments and sourcing loacally avilable resources such as Kiwira coal, Bagamoyo salt and Pugu kaolin. All went superb.

Till todate the same resources are being used. There were times when the company exported 90% of its products to the extent that it lacked local currency. Today Mgololo is no longer a remote area, it has all infrastructure and amenities for decent life. We Tanzanians can if given the required impetus because the investors who took Southern Paper Mills from Tanzanians just put into actions all recommendations, technical drawings, etc prepared by the then Southern Paper Mill staff. Shame on us.

I do agree to john Seka contributions. " We have many trained skilled people in Tz". The skills gap our ndugu Mbilinyi is referring to, could be in form of not giving a chance of skilled people to practice and thus contribute to MDGs demands. By the way do we have record of trained Tz professionals in foreign countries? Why did they leave? Where is that spirit of Nation Building. Some one should be responsible for the great numbers of exodus. What good things we have learned from our friendship with China for example?. (Wtz tukubali tu kuwa ni maskini kwa vile tumechagua vibaya)

Regards

Mwamkinga E.S.

priorities to acceptable and beneficial mode of entry to when deciding taking our resources to international spectrum for example what our Country will loos minerals direct investment by foreigners instead of partnership like joint venture Dr. Khamis has contributed a lot for rescue strategy will change royalty from 3 to 4 make great in Tz Eco efficacy (system error must be trouble shouted)?

I look at Botswana Policies with respect to Investments in mining activities which leaves a lot to be desired for our resource rich Tanzania.

Irrespectively, Gas as a very reliable source of energy could turn the development wind for our country.

I heard over the weekend what the Hon. President missed to mention on the benefits that is in store for the southern region dvelopment program. His Exelency should have mentioned exactly what the Government is planning for the southern regions which could have helped the Mtwara Residents understand the reason behind transfering the Gas to Dar es Salaam (less than 10%) and what the Government was planning with the remaining 90% in processing LNG within the southern regions, a fertilizer and a Largest East and Central Cement Factory all of which promises a brighter future for the southern regions.

I understand Information was lacking and therefore the need to highlight the Citizens for whatever is going to happen to natural resources extracted from their backyards.

Sallu E. Johnson CMILT(UK)

Dar es Salaam - Tanzania.

Cell: +255 (0) 784 368 888 / 0715 062 888

Vivian.

One thing is not clear on the gold marketing. There is something called "Hedging". Prices are fixed by Buyers to last for sometime and this cushion the Seller on any unforeseable fluctuations. The Price of Gold when the hedge was done (late 90s), the price per Ounce was not more than USD 300, therefore it is the Bidder somewhere who is reaping the Profit out of the lucrative prices we have seen the last 4 or 5 years. a portion of what Barrick sell to the Bullion is under this arrangement, therefore neither Barrick or the Tanzania (The Country) are fully enjoying the difference since.

Hedging could be very helpful when the prices of Gold Fall for the Speculator, the reason why Barrick has struggled over the years to become the worleds producer in a way to be able to control the bullion.

Going back to our old arguement:

I think (with due respect of course), that our President overlook the importance of enabling each region with any competitive advantage in production of goods and services, to be given priority to maximize.

I would discuss on the Mtwara Saga:

Like any region, resouces that are or can easily be extracted or produced, should be given a priority to enhance its productivity. As I also understand the need for constructing a pipeline to Dar es Salaam as said by the President will have a direct impact to the many Users available, but equally true by generating electricity in Mtwara will also enable Tanesco to tap the power and connect it to a National Grid, making it to be useful across the country.

What we need is to plan and arrange for Lindi and Mtwara to be connected to the Grid, while a major Gas to Electricity Plant is constructed in Mtwara, and the Songo Songo Gas be limited to Manufacturers who apart from Gas Electricity, require GAS for other related Production Work. Songo Songo could facilitate this while Mtwara dedicates to the National Grid Power Generation.

Advantage:

The Southern Parts of the Country will have steady power supply (It is where the national un-tapped resouces are), and therefore flag the beginning of national industrialization bit by bit. See the example of India and China. In these Country; we have self dependent economies for each state ranging from Agriculture, manufacturing, health, education, tourism and as such they compete for excellency but as a nation.

Mtwara has a deep berth port, gas, people, land what we need is investments that will also reduce the flock of youngsters to Dar es Salaam in search of jobs that has since made the city of Dar es Salaam totally crowded by Job Seekers both local and foreigners.

Reflections:

I see a prosperous country in less than 5 years to come if similar approaches is done to all our regions, and develop Dodoma as a Government seat to monitor and administer the regions apart from Dar es Salaam.

Apronius Vitalis Mbilinyi raised important issues such as equitable use of natural resources, human resources development, youth initiations to re-afforestate the land and the mindset that we cannot develop our selves unless somebody like foreign investors, donors and others come to help us. But he did not suggest any possible solutions.

Omari Mwinyi Khamis thinks that we need to carefully and in a constructive way use our natural resources economically and invest for the future. But he did not say/suggest how.

Neemak Eddy Kasunga mentions a very important point…establishment of disciplinary mechanisms…but didn’t go further to say/propose how.

Japhet Makongo advices that we use our natural resources to invest in quality education and build a learning society. Very good point but how? He also gave a very good point that our leaders are not encouraging and supporting local innovations (may I ask if individuals or citizens are encouraging and supporting local innovations?). how can we make individuals and their leaders support local innovations?. Again, he concludes that we are simply not getting our priorities right…and didn’t want to propose how we can get the priorities right!

Bariki Karosi Kaale gives a hint for the failure of MDGs…development is an individual desire and outsiders can not develop an individual - but compliment the individual efforts for development with or without outside support…but didn’t go further to suggest how this concept could be achieved in tanzania

Costa John kanaysu blames capable and well educated Tanzanian but did not want to say the reasons and propose what could be done to make/bring those educated Tanzanians on the right track. (note that if you go to any higher edu institution in Tanzania and ask students why are they studying? More than 95% would tell you because they want to be employed by the government where you get low salary but you can build a mansion in 1 year – simply meaning that they are studying to become professional thieves)

Sallu Johnson gave some ideas and solutions. This is the way that we should be contributing…we need ideas, solutions and actions…we don’t need expert definitions of problems (as in most of the workshops and other donor funded projects). Sallu, I am interest to follow up on your ideas and possibly help on implementation. (you can drop me an email, fmashingia@gmail.com)

Martanus Ochola Omoro’s concern and question is very important…what Tanzania need now is good leadership, good policies, resources or what?...definately we need good leadership, good policies etc but more important we need PEOPLE. What are PEOPLE doing to their country? (I will explain here later)

We could be indeed patriot but the econo'politick survives only with poweer to capital financing including technlogy of which your country lags 300 years back.

I fully agree with Hon A. V.Mbilinyi wisdom. We have many challenges to attain sustainable development. Our main strength is that we also have many opportunities to solve the challenges. Development is an individual desire and outsiders can not develop an individual - but compliment the individual efforts for development with or without outside support.

My main challenge and key worries for the future generation is that Tanzania is rapidly becoming a tree less country. Without sound forest cover (tree cover) it will be difficult to attain sustainable environmental conservation.

Main sign on environmental degradation is scarcity of water in areas which had never experienced water scarcity like in some rural arreas of Kilimanjaro and Meru due to destruction of forest cover.

Sincerely

Bariki K. Kaale

1. Transparent, efficient and accountable systems

2. Well addressed equity issues

3. Balanced national resource enjoyments

4.Sustainable environment management

5. Global governance

Mwakibibi

Makongo

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We have lost identity as a Nation, we have lost norms as a nation and loss faith as individuals.

Human capital building and development is uppermost; widening the tax base to make sure that every income generating activities is proportionally taxed and utilize the collections on community services and economic ventures (schools, health, transport, marketing infrastructures, research institutions, etc); safe guide natural resources for national usage; separate politician from executive duties and lastly but not least harness the whole potentials of agricultural value chain.

This will work only after establishment of disciplinary mechanisms that abide all responsible and face immediate consequences should they misbehave.

Indeed development planning require strategy. I am currently in India where this week the running agenda refers to the role where regionalism as a factor to national economic development.

Tanzania is an endowed and richly blessed with multiple resouces that are geographically spread across the country.

What we need to do, is to enable a few locally proven industrialists from each region and allow them access to working capital deliberately - say 5 from each region, and create through enabling a vibrant private sector, that will look into all existing potential i.e. Mining, Agriculture, industry, education, health, Transport, Power generation, infrastructure development as well as into all spheres that are expected to rejuvenate oue economy.

Geographically, Tanzania is also strategically placed more than many African countries as it offer a gateway to more that 7 land locked nations with a coastline of over a 1,000 kilometers i.e. Tanga to Mtwara. This alone is envied by many competitors to Tanzania. Along with it we have 2 iddle railwaylines going to Central and Southern African Countries of which we have barely put to economic benefit, other than for political purposes that seem to have been overtaken by the current geo-politics. Tazara has since not assumed its new expected role in economic sence since, to add up to the new emerging demand created by the up-and coming Congolese projects in the DRC. The railway is a perfect Infrastructure to the entire region, and it is expected to generate heavy traffic both in-bound and out-bound logistics. I am sure the DRC are willing to join hands by way of investing in the rolling stocks for the mutual benefits of all partners.

Further, I have since eyed a port in Rukwa going by the name of Port Kasanga that is located on the southern tip of Lake Tanganyika being a distance of only 35 kilometers from the opposite Port of Moba along the western shores of lake Tanganyika in the DRC. Potential local Investors have shown interest to develop both ports across, and invest in cargo and passenger ships in Lake Tanganyika to cater across and along the lake but the response is not encouraging from authorities. This will go along with the establishment of mechanized farms in the Lake Tanganyika Investment Region, which in return is expected to create a vibrant economy, that will stimulate other economic undertakings across i.e. infrastructure developmement, mining, tourism, agriculture, industries, energy projects you name it.

I have a lesson learnt from a small country - Singapore, where the in the early 60s it was no more like what you see at Chang'ombe "Maduka mawili" - a series of a two storey buildings and squarters. The country is not resource endowed as we are, apart from the fact that it is uniquely and strategically located where their first President Mr. Lee Kwan Yu, took massive advantage of this fact by creating deliberate and enabling policies that saw Singapore rise among many other relative nations.

We have all the factors that can enable Tanzania assume its new regional role, people, leadership, peace moulded together with emerging potential in the form of discovered resources essentiall Gas, that will play a meaningful role in bring down our costs of production and make our products competitive across.

Bad and poorly drawn contracts will not take us anywhere, as the resorces could end up being a curse. Let Investors understand that we are for a win-win negotiations, for each to enjoy the return.

Equitable sharing of endowed resources, Power generation Projects, Infrastructure Development, Education and Community Health are the pillars that are expected to deliver wealth to this country.

I see a little hope in Multipartism.

The future generations will need 1. free primary and secondary education 2.They will need cheap and sustainable electricity to develop modernindustries.3They will require better infrastructure even to village levels. They will need hospitals in every village in Tanzania. They will need well developed modern railway system that covers the whole country as well as tarmac roads reaching every single village in the country.They will need national experts in each important scientific field. This means they will need mineengineers,petroleum geologists,asengineers,chemical engineers,road engineers,doctors, marine engineers,pilots etc. They will need clean water not only to big towns but even to all villages. We can only obtain all this we can now carefully and in a constructive way use our natural resources economically and invest for the future. Dr.khamis , Sweden

A diverse set of tools have been deployed to capture a wider range of stakeholders’ views in Tanzania. Thus, ESRF through TAKNET is inviting you to participate in this useful online discussion. The discussion will be guided by among others the following questions:

(a) Who is a person not living well in this country/community?

(b) What do you think has made your life better or worse recently and what could be done about this situation (including your own role)

(c) What will be needed for future generations to live well in this country or community?

We welcome all to participate to this important discussion forum to determine the future we want and how can we achieve it!

This Discussion is moderated by;

Dr. O. Mashindano

Dr. T. Kida

Mrs. M. Nzuki

Mrs. V. Kazi

Mr. A. Hassan