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Topic : 2013/2014 Government Budget: Does it meet expectations of the majority?  
 


2013/2014 Government Budget: What is your opinion? The budget for the year 2013/2014 has been announced by the Minister responsible for Finance, and Economic Affairs. A package of new measures for collecting more revenue and reduce government expenditure have been identified including; holdin ...Click here to read more

     
Comments From TAKNET Members
Abdallah Hassan  : Monday, November 4, 2013    
  Dear All, Greetings.

I am writing to invite you to a public seminar to be held at ESRF Conference Hall on Tuesday 5th November 2013. During the seminar, Prof Charles Gore from University of Glasgow will make a presentation on "Economic Development and Generalized Poverty Reduction: Key Lessons from past experience". The seminar will be held from 2pm to 4pm in the afternoon.

For more details on the seminar including biography of the presenter please visit http://www.esrf.or.tz/ebrief/023.html. We look forward to your acceptance of this invitation and participation in the meeting.

Please confirm your participation through Ms. Jacqueline Mwijage email address: mwijage@esrf.or.tz or call on 0713 216856/0754780133

 
     

Danford Sango  : Friday, August 23, 2013    
  Dear Monica, welcome to Tanzania.

Just to respond to an issue you have raised in relation to standards of education in Tanzania – which you have indicated that you don’t know. Standards of education down here have been deteriorating sharply over the past say 20 years. The worst case scenario was this year when we had mass failures in 2012 secondary examinations. Since 2000 we have managed to increase students enrollment at all levels of education from primary to tertiary but then that achievement has come along with an opportunity costs in terms of deteriorating performance. As you have seen in the brief synopsis that Hassan has developed for Tanzania Human Development Report 2014, one of the background paper we are preparing for this study is on “What lies behind further decline in education standards in Tanzania?”. In this paper we want to dig deep to uncover underlying reasons – not the usual petty reasons like lack of textbooks, lack of classrooms, lack of teachers etc.

I hope that THDR 2014 will make an important intellectual contribution to understand dilemmas facing education sector in this country and how to reverse experiences of the last decade. I think the issue of capacity building of trainers of trainers i.e. teachers of teachers is very interesting because often time we tend to focus on teachers forgetting teachers of teachers. I suppose authors of this background paper will have to dig deeper on this direction to know what is not going in teachers colleagues.

 
     

Bariki Karosi Kaale  : Tuesday, July 30, 2013    
  Mkuu

Kwa watanzania wengi mitaani lengo lao ni kuhakikisha kuwa waheshimiwa tunaoongoza kufanya maisha ya mtu wa chini kuwa magumu zaidi tuelewe mwisho wa siku maisha yetu pia yatakuwa ya shida. Ongezeko la kodi ya simu haliwapi shida walionacho bali ni kilio kwa wengi ambao kipato kidogo. Juhudi ziwe za kutenda haki kwa maendeleo ya wote. Badala ya viongozi kuongeza uzalishaji, kila mwaka lengo ni kuongeza kodi kwenye vitu vile vile km: soda, bia, sigara road, licence n.k., Wanyonge wataacha kutumia hivyo vitu na hatutapata fedha. Kwa mfano rafiki yangu alikuwa na line tano za simu - kutokana na kodi ametupa tatu na kubakia na mbili.

B.Kaale

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Tuesday, July 30, 2013    
  Dear Bariki K. Kaalel,
Thanks for exciting example!! I like that!!!

Again Dear all,
Some of the Tax on SIM card opposers have not understood the matter, thanks moderator for elaboration. Yes we need tax for national development, but Maisha bora kwa wote yanahitaji kodi kwa ratio (Kama ilivyo income tax). My suggestion it should have been in a ratio, not the fixed tax of 1000 Tsh for wealth people (tajiri) and poor (masikini)!

Moderator raised a good question on utilization of the said Tax and how sure that all tax has been collected. I think this is a common problem in Tanzania . Collection of tax is one thing, but efficient utilization of that tax for the national development is another different thing. When it comes to implementation of development project (value for money) is a common problem in our country.
And hear i would like to throw a challenge on how can we ensure value for money has been effected. One of my suggestion is lets have a transparency system of ensureing value for money is complied... in other words accountability!

Is anyone have an example on how other nation are doing to ensure value for money and accountability!!!



 
     

ANTHONY GIKURI  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Good Idea Rukonge. I am not an expert in the field of tax management but I think almost each one of us make every possible attempt to evade tax.Everyone desires more, me¨!!!!me!!! If this is the case, tax collection has never been and will never be an easy task. A small tax increment would cause infinite Egyptian downtown mass demonstrations. We need to change our mindsets toward tax paying. However, the government must assure us that the money is spent accordingly.



Anthony Gikuri
Kizumbi Campus
Moshi University College of Cooperative and Business Studies
P.O.BOX 469
SHINYANGA
Tanzania
Mobile +255713634382/+25589448244/+255768805441
Website: www.muccobs.ac.tz

 
     

John Seka  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Rukonge,

The collection of the 1000 tax is to be done at source (through Telco's). This is why they are up in arms on account of the fact that while they have these number of people having lines but in reality the numbers are not being used but since they are regiatered they are taxable. In the short run its the Telco's who will suffer unless they decide to terminate a number that isnt used after a month. (For instance: I have an airtel number which i rarely use or replenish credit but its recorded at Airtel as active). Absurd way of taxation.

 
     

ANTHONY GIKURI  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  I am afraid this discussion about tax on SIM would turn political. In my opinion, no govt in the world can run without collecting tax from its citizens. I would therefore concur with Hassan that contributing towards the development of nation is our sole responsibility as Tanzanians. I think the Wananchi are ready to contribute but they might be worried about the mechanisms for directing this revenue to appropriate functions. Therefore the matter is whether the money will fall into the safe hands. If we are to draw lessons from the Euro zone for instance, it is clear that each one us would agree with me that the era of dependency on foreign must come to an end if not lessening the proportion of dependency. We should try to learn to mobilize local resources and push for transparency and accountability when it comes to expending the citizens sweat.

Anthony Gikuri

Kizumbi Campus

Moshi University College of Cooperative and Business Studies

P.O.BOX 469

SHINYANGA

Tanzania

Mobile +255713634382/+25589448244/+255768805441

Website: www.muccobs.ac.tz

 
     

Abdallah Hassan  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Dear Taknet members
Some of the contributors support the introduction of tax on Sim Card "to me the cell phone monthly Tax has been one of my ideas that would collectively emerge as a direct contribution of the masses to development without even feeling a pinch"  the issue of patriotism to national development. others goes further into proposing the best way to collect the tax; "The best way to tax for sim card is to charge depending on the ability of topping up airtime " Most of contributors worry how the government can assure that the amount collected by mobile operators is the one submitted? and how the government is going to expend the collected amount. Can we go further and ask the government to spend the collected amount into some projects that the ordinary people can see direct impact and feel proud of their 1000 contribution?
Hassan



 
     

Nurfus Ndee  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Yah nafikiri bado serikali haijawekeza vya kutosha kwenye man power iliyopo ili kusaidia kuja na mbinu mbadala ili kulifanya taifa hili lisonge mbele.

 
     

John Seka  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Folks,
Reading through the rosy picturesque story by Shimwela made me question my eyes and my ears. It made me ask myself these two questions in relation to my close relatives who are in the villages:
1. M i too blind (or myopic) to notice or even hear that my relatives are lying to me when they say life is so difficult in the villages and refuse to send the customary remittance i used to send?
2. Why isnt everyone (with the exception of those in power) clapping hands for the silent revolution that is happening? (Hivi sisi tulionyimwa hii hulka ya kushangilia ni kwamba tuna wivu na hawa wenzetu?).

Very very disturbing questions i had. Very very disturbed i was with my blindness to see this forthcoming revolution.

 
     

Bariki Karosi Kaale  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  We are reinventing the wheel of what we used to term as petty nuisance taxes by district authorities taxing even poor farmers selling few pieces of maize for roasting or a bunch of ripe bananas.

Cell phones are facilitating communication as a basic need. However owners of cell phones their economic status differ greatly. Some use over TZS 100,000 on their cell phones per month while the majority uses below TZS 1,000 per month. Experience shows that majority of low income people are mainly using their mobile phones to receive calls and messages or making request to be called.

Government priority should be to intensify use of phones to enhance communication and not to discourage the poor majority through taxes.

To differentiate between poor and rich users of cell phones we could establish categories based on amount of air time used per month. Those with low volume of airtime should be excluded from the tax of which the majority are poor people. Those with high volume of air time could pay the nominal tax.

Policy makers approving increases of taxes targeting the poor community, sometimes have little experience of Tanzanian poverty problems. In most cases policy makers have nice cars, live in luxurious building and conduct their shopping in super markets. For example I have never seen children of key policy makers going to Ward secondary schools or hiking daladala.

Once I conducted a simple survey at Tegeta Nyuki market on people visiting a butcher and weight of meet purchased. Results showed that around 85% of customers purchased half a kilograms to three quarters of a kg (nusu na robo). Twelive (12%) purchased between 1-2 kg. The remaining 3% purchased above 2 kg.

Fortunately I was able to purchase 1kg. However my close neighbor (in the group of policy makers) purchased 30 kg. I thought he had a ceremony so I asked him if I could participate as he bought a lot of meet. I was surprised when he told me he had no ceremony, the meat he purchased was for his dogs. In this case it could be unfair to treat all customers purchasing meat at Tegeta Nyuki butcher to pay equal tax for eating meat.

Bariki K. Kaale

 
     

John Seka  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Kasunga,
You have raised a very pertinent question on the question of financial inclusion. Why penalize with crazy taxation the up and coming entrepreneurs who have found some ways of making extra cash facilitating financial

 
     

SALLU JOHNSON  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Nikubuka I thank you so much for delivering the point so nicely with a vivid rural example, though I guess you alsobe a product of Mazengo (Mid 70s)!

As a nation we could bank on the idea, and assign to our national priorities say we can start on rehabillitating the railway, and so forth i.e. energy, ports, education etc by a mere few shillings softly collected on a monthly contribution and see where our nation could be in the next 5 years!

We are a great patriotic country, and we should not be so worried with these lilte macro undertakings that amount to a single visit to a neighbourhood kiosy ... a mere 12,000 / paer annum!

Sallu E. Johnson CMILT(UK)
Dar es Salaam - Tanzania.
Cell: +255 (0) 784 368 888 / 0715 062 888
Email: sallujohnson@yahoo.com

 
     

Herick Marisham  : Monday, July 29, 2013    
  Dear Forum Members , i hope we can do better if we improve collections from mining and ports (harbor) .

Regards,

Marisham

 
     

Kabuje Furaha  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  thanks moderator for solving password problem on my side...

Yeah, Though i have few minutes before i go out of office (Friday evening..), let me say two things;
1. about SIM card tax- refering Shimwela point of view,the one your are saying -0ne you saw in the burial... i would like to disagree with those whoare in favour of sim card tax.. remember there are people in some areas getting 1000 for monthly airtime is an issue!!.... they just depend on bipping business..... all in all my point is ... you can not compare a person in towho uses almost 100,000Tsh (about 0.02%)for airtime and charge the same with the one ho uses 1000 Tsh for a month (20- 30%). this is quite unfair..at least if it could be a ration in term of percent... that one can be fair. Take example of a person earning 500,000Tsh per month being charged 1000Ts SIM card tax each month and compare with another one earning 50,000Tsh per month being charged the same 1000Tsh on sim SIM CARD. It doesnt sound fair at all!!!

I will be back on another area...
Furaha L. Kabuje

 
     

Nurfus Ndee  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  Watanzania nafikiri tuna safari ndefu sana na viongozi wetu maana nashindwa kujua kwamba wapo bungeni kuwawakilisha watanzania au sielewi vizuri maana hili suala walilijadili na mpaka kufika kwa Mh. Rais ni kwamba wao tayari walishaona linawezekana kwa watanzania wote. Jamani viongozi hebu msiweke masuala ya vyama kwenye masuala ya nchi na wananchi wake, mnazidi kutuambia kuwa tuliwaweka hapo kimakosa na sasa tujirekebishe kipindi kijacho tuweke wale wenye kuja kutetea maslahi ya watanzania maana naona wengi hapo wanaangalia masuala ya vyama vyao tu na wenyewe, sie wananchi naona tunasahaulika. tutajirekebisha kipindi kijacho na mtatuelewa tu watanzania sie tulio maskini.  
     

AUDAX RUKONGE  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  Jamani

We do know how the government is planning to retrieve the charges on MPESA and other financial services offered by the mobile companies....or it will wait until companies bring their accounts? I have been using MPESA and TIGO PESA services....but with over 14%....imposed on transfer....on top of the companies' charges do we know if the money is goes directly to exchequer or otherwise?

Nadhani pamoja na kujadili kodi hizi na zingine (hakuna ubaya kulipa kodi), ni vema kama tutajadili endapo tunapokea huduma stahiki kulingana na kodi tulipazo. Hii ni Muhimu zaidi.

A

 
     

stephen Mbundi  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  Personally I am so excited with this discussion. However, my suprise is all discussants are guided by emotion rather than being objective. I have one or two questions one being how are we going to collect it, is there different mechanism that will ensure that all expected revenue are collected and not only kept in safe hands but also fund the aimed activity?

Two, is there anyone who is against the purpose/the intuition behind planned expenditure of this tax? What is the alternative source of revenue that will fund this activity in case we are against the proposed tax considering tax base of most of underdeveloped nations, Tanzania included.

Otherwise if we don't want to emancipate our kids from ignorance (as the tax is expected)to fund education sector)they will inherit our position in this group of walalamikaji. We need to change our focus instead of keeping complaining about mining contracts which there is minute possibility of amending or not honouring them let us think forward on how nation will benefit from the future contracts. By the way if one will make an informed analysis will note that the contract we are lamenting on them since 90s does not amount even 10% of mineral deposits in Tanzania. Since now we have the mining policy, we made input in gas policy at least we know what we want as a nation. All in all let us propose the alternative source, a new one, where we can draw fund for education sector.

 
     

Camillus D. N. Kassala  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  I do not think that Tanzanians are against the idea of contributing towards their own development per se. Rather it is the question of socio-economic justice which is the issue. The question is: why ask the poor who do not have the power to determine how the national monies should be collected, rather than the wealthy and rich who acquired monies unjustly, even at the expense of the poor themselves? What of the $1bn loss of revenue (annually) as illicit capital flight from Tanzania? Read ‎http://www.kirkensnodhjelp.no/Documents/Kirkens%20N%C3%B8dhjelp/Publikasjoner/Ymse%20publikasjoner/ONE%20BILLION%20DOLLAR%20QUESTION.pdf

Why should investing MNC's be exempted from taxes, levies, fees and duties in millions of shillings? Why should investing laws favour the rich with tax holidays?

CDNKassala

 
     

Nikubuka Philemon Shimwela  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  Hi everyone!

Sallu Johnson has brought fresh thinking into this thread and I am thoroughly delighted with and thank him for it. Indeed what is wrong with a "poor" person who can afford a cellphone contributing to a fund which will ultimately finance common goods and services - runal rural electrification, water supply, healthcare and what else have you? If some rural folk is so poor s/he cannot afford a cellphone then of course s/he is outside this tax net. By definition therefore the poorest of the poor are automatically exempted from it. But how poor are the "poor"?

I was in Mbozi this week (20-24 July) for the funeral of one of my loved ones and the poverty I saw among the ordinary folk is not as dire and abject as the pro-poor activists in this conversation would want us to believe. I safely estimate that 60-70% of the several hundred adults at the funeral had cellphones of every description and standard! Unlike in the old times when I was growing up there, all of them were wearing shoes (used or new is not the point!). I would not describe any one of them as attired in tatters either.

The motor cycle (bodaboda) is by far the commonest mode of rural transport there now and the youth involved are doing thriving business. I estimate that 30-40% of the mourners coming from afar used bodaboda to and from the funeral. Only ten years ago nobody imagined that there would be such fast and instantaneous exchange of information through the cellphone and such fast movement of people and goods via means like the bodaboda. Multiply Mbozi's experience 10,000 times and you get some idea of the silent revolution going on in this country!

So let us be realistic - Sallu's point makes a lot of sense to me.

Cheers!

Nikubuka Philemon Shimwela

 
     

Kenneth mhaiki  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  it did not meet my demands eg.teachers expecting many to this budget but nothing......  
     

Eward Mushi  : Friday, July 26, 2013    
  I think the government should go back to the mining and tourism sector where there is an opportunity of collecting even more than double of the sim card tax.

 
     

Hebron Mwakalinga  : Thursday, July 25, 2013    
  Audax. I agree with you about the problem of under-transfers to LGAs I too came across many that could not implement their projects (at least in agriculture where I am a bit informed) because of lack (not delay) of budgeted funds. There is a need for clarification certainly. Also on the the long awaited Benki ya Kilimo it is needed to enhance Tanzanian participation in agriculture during this transition period (Kilimo Kwanza)

Hebron

 
     

Neemak Eddy Kasunga  : Thursday, July 25, 2013    
  Jambo Vitalis,

from we 'Microfinance financial services providers....SACCOS and VIKOBA' we were in the move tointroduction of Mobile Money Transfer (MMT). This were to involve a number of SACCOS/VICOBA and mobile phone service providers. As from this imposition of of the monthly tax of 1,000 plus other addition money transfer fees will automatically increase operation cost of the service to users. Majority reside in rural and marginalized urban areas. As a result there will be reduction on clients who are MFIs money savers, SACCOS borrowers that want to reimburse loans thru MMT or M-Pesa/Tigo Pesa. Mobile phone users will decline, but not owners! The anticipated Tshs 161.0 bil will be just a wishful income to the GOT... the whole idea of rural financial service infusion will be affected. Mind you starting from this July, the cost of mobile money transfer has increased. Likewise for the urban users like in DSM. One SACCOS staff revealed to me this Monday that, SACCOS members have now resorted to board dala dala to physically come to SACCOS to either deposit or withdraw money as it is cheaper compared to use of m-pesa/tigo pesa services! This will automatically affect to some extent, the quality of loan portfolio of most MFIs. Let us wait and see!

 
     

Yonoh H.N. Mtengule  : Thursday, July 25, 2013    
 

From the figure above and the data portrayed, shows that the sector has been growing on average at above 20% since 2008, but its share contribution to the total GDP of the country has been below 5%. What does this imply? Much of the economic gains from this sector have not been translated into tangible assets to the local people. Huge profits which the companies in this sector have been making to a large extent have been repatriated to parent companies abroad leaving behind very little that is ploughed back into the general framework where you and me can have direct tangible benefits. Before even the government comes with this new tax initiatives it has first to bridge this gap which is too wide (refer the above figure) meaning that these companies are not paying to the government all the required dues. Statistics are telling us this story and hence the government should curb these loopholes first.

Regards

Yonoh

 
     

Simon Meigaro  : Thursday, July 25, 2013    
  Dear Mbilinyi and Forum members!

SIM card tax is a controversy. Several questions posed to the legitimacy and the negative consequences of this kind of tax to the already poor majority have not been responded to accordingly by the government. The circumstances around the introduction of this tax are not clear. Why was it not discussed thoroughly in the parliament? Why were mobile phone operators not consulted? But most importantly, why should a very poor person in the village who can only afford Tshs 1,000/ for SIM card credits in a month be charged equally with a wealthy business person who spend over Tshs 100,000/ in same duration? The burden of this tax is unjustifiably unfair. Its consequences include denial of rights of access to information but also unfair distribution of income. If a tax on SIM cards is necessary, there is ground for which to support its regressive effects. Why should the poor be made poorer?

On the other hand; several lamentations, have it that, the government have failed and is persistently reluctant to collect revenue from mining companies and other multinational corporations looting our natural resources for their industrial consumption abroad. The government have also failed to hold accountable her officials for misappropriation, corruption, theft and bad contracts, costing the government billions of dollars every year. The government have also failed to cut excessive spending on administration and leisure, international travels, etc.

My humble submission!

Simon Meigaro.

 
     

SALLU JOHNSON  : Thursday, July 25, 2013    
  Pity Tanzanians! to me the cell phone monthly Tax has been one of my ideas that would collectively emerge as a direct contribution of the masses to development without even feeling a pinch. I am however scared on the fund management given the lot i.e. 161 bn! is this not a solution for our various project financing of national scale by a mere 1,000/- per month, rather than wait for donors whom have lately been a scarce commodity?

South Korea did it, and they went further down to contribute wholly from their own possession i.e. golden bangles,earings and the like to enable their country emerge from a deep recession.

I am also not confortable on the statistics being offered that 36% of users spend less than a 1,000/- per Month. I am sure the comment does not come from someone who has been to most corners of our country where similar to China we have affluent communities almost in every region and the growing middle class.

Has he seen countries which are really termed poor, such that a meal a day is a hassle leave alone the kind of shelter one is able to provide for his family!

No where in Tanzania you will find squarters that equal what we have in the Mathare Valley or in the outskirts of most South African big cities!

Thanks...

Sallu E. Johnson CMILT(UK)

 
     

Kenneth mhaiki  : Friday, July 5, 2013    
  Our leaders experience lack of adequate thinking capabilities of finding others sources of earning the national income..this is outcome of our poor education.. Education till ranging backward everyday..teachers have hard life..despite their long voices to their govt..what we can do..?nothing  
     

AUDAX RUKONGE  : Monday, July 1, 2013    
  I think on the outside the budget seems to be resonating with government's commitment to Maisha Bora (ZAIDI) kwa Kila Mtanzania. Once again, we see the budget increasing from the current Tzs 15 Tril to over Tzs 18trillions. We are also witnessing more focus to few sectors (five) of Kilimo, Maji, Afya, Miundo Mbinu and Transport (kama sikosei)

However...Let me ask you a crazy question: Has anyone of us found out how much of the preceding budget (development/investment budget) was transferred up to end May 2013? I think, from what we have it was less than 35% in most of LGAs. So what is the use of raising hope...if the government categorically knows it will not be able to transfer the money to LGAs in time?

This saddens me! I think we shouldnt be talking about the budget (forward looking) without reflecting back on the practice. Has the money been a problem in Tanzanian government? I doubt this. Why we are informed this year, TRA has been able to collect over 100% of the target even before year end!!!!

. Was the target realistic? Whatever the answer, we know if the money collected was over and above the estimates, and were expected to spend within the budget, then we should have extra money around (hela za uchakavu) to cater to eventualities, and not be struggling to transfer money down to LGAs

Now coming to the realty....well, I LOVE SECTOR YA KILIMO. I think we should have been told the STORY ON AGRICULTURAL DEVELOPMENT BANK. WHERE IS IT? HAS THE MONEY BEEN ALLOCATED, IS IT OPERATIONAL? HOW MUCH HAS BEEN ALLOCATED OVER THE LAST 3 YEARS AND WHO ARE THE BENEFICIARIES? WHAT IS THE FATE OF EMERGING SMALLHOLDER FARMERS (YOUTH IN PARTICULAR) AND LOCAL BUSINESS MEN/WOMEN?

Dont we see the NISHATI vijijini as a hoax? I mean I do not see the collection from petroleum to benefit umeme/nishati vijijini A friend of mine from EWURA said on average we (Tanzanians) consume at least 5,000 tones of petrol. If you multiply this by a thounds to get litres.....and then multiply this by Tzs 120/litre, and then multiply it with a number of days in a year (366) it is a hell of money! Do we know the cost of such projects in rural areas? Do we know well such projects? Anayekamuliwa ni nani if not the fellow employee and farmers who moil and toil to see ends meet and yet hardly benefit from such a sweat.

Do not quote me wrongly friends, but I just wanted to bring a different angle on this discussion...and for sure these extra kodis will be felt through increased transport costs, which automatically increases gharama za vipuri, mbolea na pembejeo na mwisho kupunguza kipato cha mkulima

Tchao

 
     

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